16.5" / 17" CWD 2Gs Full Buffalo Saddle 2015 model 2C Flaps measuring 14" from stirrup bar to bottom and 14" across SE25 seat 4.75" dot to dot tree measurement Front and rear blocks Integrated panels Seat is labeled as a 17" (S1) but it is a deep seat (XTR) so it measures closer to 16.5". This is very hard to find in a 2Gs model! Great for a petite rider! Excellent condition, soft, supple, padded and grippy! Beautiful chocolate leather Gorgeous!